Feedback on Your Comments
Melly and I did a non-indepth discussion about the comments via tweeting.
Refer to the original post: Leave Comments for BBFansite
[feedback from momo]: i had to print and proof read everything. Even though there are 76 comments but still that’s like more than two thousand words in total. Anyway, I am only gonna touch on the editorial/operation where as on the technical/management side, i leave that part to Melly.
[feedback from melly]: my comments will be in green. i went through all your concerns on the previous post & will try to address it all as best i can.
NOTE: i would like to express a few things so you all can see this: thanks for your concerns & opinions. a forewarning: i am writing this at 4AM & re-reading some of the comments honestly annoyed the crap out of me, so you might sense some hostility in my tone, but it’s more “a-matter-of-fact” than hostile. ^_^
you should keep in mind that what we do at bbfansite – we do this out of the goodness of our hearts, to share with you the things we enjoy, & to give you something to enjoy. to ask, & to some extent, aggressively suggest that we do this & that doesn’t make me want to do them for you. we are people with lives outside of the fansite & have school/work to do. so please be respectful to the staff & give thanks whenever you come by & check out our posts. i personally read every comment made on my posts & it makes me happy when you like what i post.
Big Bang’s Solo Updates:
Let me be clear on this, there is no BIAS here. And when i said there isnt, means there isnt. I know its a BigBang Fansite and the content BigBang related of course. However when i post something, i usually leave a comment, a reason why it was posted at the first place.
Yes i noticed that TaeYang has been in the centre of attention lately because he’s the only one who has been very active and articulate with the fans. Because of lacking BigBang news, i feel that the site should not be left empty with the unnecessary posts. So if it means posting non stop on one particular member, just to keep you in the loop, yeah will continue to do so. Either its GD, Seungri, Top Or DaeSung, i would still post them as i did with TaeYang.
— there’s a few things to clarify. pointing fingers isn’t the right way to go. first of all, many of you tend to confuse me for vicky. she & i have different styles when creating posts. this is for another section, but to accuse me of being the one giving attention to gd & sr – the gd part might be true, but vicky is mrs. lee, not i.
5 individuals make up BB. there is no bias whatsoever on our site. we post whatever we can, whenever we can. some members tend to have more things going on for them at different times, not necessarily all at once. if it was like that, then there wouldn’t be time for BB as a group to be active. so to end your requests of “i want more top” – that in itself entails bias. you want more of a specific member, then that has some hypocrisy tied to it. you cannot ask more of a certain person w/o upsetting others. so my advice: stop asking for more of a specific person. if you can’t accept that, i suggest you googling fansites for individuals & have a nice day.
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News /Pictures Updates:
It’s a given that news circulate from one forum to another. So what we do here, is we help to compile everything related to BigBang/YG and post it under one roof to make it easier for you to go through without jumping here and there.
Redundant as it sound, its not a simple job. Its time consuming and for me, when i post, i go throught the articles and decide whether i should place it here or not. Doesnt mean its BigBang related, everything will be park here. No, thats not how i work. If i think its a good story, only then i’ll post. And sometimes, out of habit, i’ll do follow up with KVIPz for more details.
Some requested for more pictures to be updated here. Ok honestly, i wont be doing that at all. Reason? Because, as some of you are aware, we BBFansite did face a few problems with BBVIPz. Problems like providing download links and stuff. That was in fact our second case with them. The first one involved pictures.
Question here is that permission wasnt not being asked or granted for anyone to upload the vid as your own or post pictures elsewhere. To make long story short, i have dealt with it and both parties are fine as of now. As an International Correspondent, people will definitely be looking for me for some answers if anything goes wrong especially when it involves BBFansite. Hence why, some updates are being updated elsewhere and not here. And doesnt mean its not here, we are not aware of it because we do. Just trying to be safe. Can be very tedious when problem arise.
Uploading pics/vids, i leave that part to others especially Vicky. And i’ll inform Vicky about the zip file instead of rar. (Vicky, please take note)
Sometimes when we post news that are 2 to 3 days old, we compiled it into one post. Its easier that way so that you wont confuse it as a new update. Less hassle that way than posting it individually.
— we are starting a new policy of reducing the number of items we take from a source per day as it is starting to annoy me. we appreciate the info that other sites provide, but i believe that if we have the ability to do things on our own, then we should place importance on that over other things. it’s no good to keep making posts on brief updates when it can all be combined into 1. that would help keep things organized & less cluttered in all honesty.
momo (& i previously) works for ygworld which explains the posts coming from there. but i can assure you now that it will be cut down.
sure you have seen things on other sites that you don’t see here. it’s not because we are not aware of it. we are aware of lots of things that you don’t know about. we just don’t find many things worth posting. we are vipz – fans. we are not stalkers. it’s enough to have pic spam that shows them every time they blink. we don’t need to dig up pix of their ex’s & whatever problems they have in life.
let’s be respectable fans & human beings, AND GIVE THEM SOME SPACE.
posting non-bb stuff:
– it’s true we are a fansite, but this is technically set up as a blog. so we as writers tend to leave you with parting wisdom that is very informative & entertaining. it will never be anything redundant.
– many of the non-bb stuff we post pertains to YG Artists. this is essential to nourishing your bb thirst as the origins of bb come from ygfamily. a true fan knows this & will never complain about it.
– it’s not easy making a post. many things go into making a post. there’s organization – making your post attractive w/ colors & sorts. also, pix are a tough cookie b/c you have to reupload & relink them onto the post & make sure they are sized correctly so you can see them clearly. i am not a pic spammer, i leave that to ppl who actually have time to save every picture & re-up them for you to enjoy.
– also take into consideration the origins of the source we are taking these from. we have been in a tough pickle w/ korean sites b/c they were not aware their info has been passed on to others. just as so, we must respect others’ wishes & credit whenever necessary.
– many of you talked about project meet & greet & desired to be kept updated about this. there is no updating on anything if it doesn’t exist yet. i get emails letting me know about potential meets, then i make a post letting you know when it is. THEN, i make another post that tells you how it went. it’s a simple thing. & you can see the finished product on the sidebar. without that, you wouldn’t know much more about projects (my annoyance is directed to the “organization” section).
Just so you know that i work at ygworld. hence why some of the updates are posted here as well. As to other sources. Not to complaint and all, i do often see my posts get posted elsewhere without mentioning the origin. Especially when i personally did the research and confirmed it with my source. Even though it doesn’t bother me that much, so long that i know its me, thats that. However, we will work out on our personal touch for each news posted. Therefore, there’s going to be a change soon.
— if you notice, there are many big bang forums/fansites out there. i’m almost 95% certain that a lot of the updates they have originally came from our site, yet we receive no credit whatsoever. if not taken directly from us, they figure out the original source b/c we are decent enough to tell you the original source. i often come across many sites & see our info recycled. this annoys me b/c the integrity of this inner system is lost.
there is honestly no point in making so many fansites. you only need a few. seeing all these new ones formed saddens me b/c the intergrity of our site is lost; we’ve been stripped of the exclusivity & have been indirectly mocked b/c of this.
i welcome you to pass on the word, but crediting is essential. it is all we have in this “business.” this is how our work gets appreciated. it’s fine if you want to take our info, but all we ask is for you to leave a comment saying thanks & where you will be posting the info @ & to PROPERLY CREDIT. even if it came from somewhere else, we took the time to post it for YOU to enjoy. all it takes is an extra line of words to link back to our site & the original poster.
If i say that we are pretty humble fansite, is that too much? Lol. Well, we dont do promotion and all. Our main goal is that if you like what we post, then you’ll stay with us and eventually you’ll pass around some notes about the fansite. But if you dont like what we do here, there’s always other places to visit. The thing is we enjoy everything we do here and having so much fun doing it. Hence, we careless about the promotion stuff.
Promoting Big Bang to other latecomers is pretty generic for me. If you like music in any case u will love Korean music and subsequently will lead to other groups like TVXQ, BIgBang etc. So if you want to promote something, promote music. Liking music as it is and not because of the genre itself. No Genre, Just Music.
— i appreciate everyone believing in what we do & our potential to reach many. the fact is, we truly have, & this is honestly done without the help of affiliation of other sites. we’ve been in existence for 2 1/2 yrs on our own. we get more readers by word of mouth & google. just as momo says, we are a very humble fansite in this sense.
to reiterate what momo said: if you don’t like what we do here, you can keep your negativity to yourself & move on to another site. we’ve gotten along just fine doing things how we’ve done since we’ve been in existing & i don’t intend on changing things.
Ok i understand your predicament. It can be a pain when your computer slows down cause of YT. With this, we will post the video links if required for you to view them later.
For vids with subs, we’ll post them when its available. So for the time being, we’ll be posting the non sub vids just for your viewing pleasure only. Sometimes, will include translation script as and when.
— if you blame youtubes for slowing down the page load, i would direct this attention to the bandwith of your internet connection. in fact, blame youtube users for uploading so many useless videos & clouding up the internet bandwith.
asking, or more like demanding for more subs is really not a good solution to your problems. because you frequently visit our site means that you most likely can’t understand them, just like we don’t readily do. but we get along just fine, & if we can, then so should you.
so my advice: take up some korean lessons & learn on your own, cuz that’s how i’m surviving, & i’m just as content as any korean out there. we have no obligation to provide you with subbed videos, but only just to enjoy the media as best as you can, for the frontal value it pertains, as well as embracing the culture.
Melly did make a page about the Staff at the side bar. So everything you need to know about us is all there. Maybe we can do something about it later to improve it. I dunno. But will have a tweet with Melly about this when i see her.
On the other hand, i would just like to say that I am a straight forward person who doesnt spazz as much as others. When i like something, i’ll be blunt about it. No shakespeare scripts from me. Also, some may not fancy my posts cause i post way too many on other YG Artists and with that i should stop posting it. Its BBFansite for crying out loud as what they said. I know that but then i wont stop. You see, its good to know and i feel its fun to educate you guys about other YG Family members especially the “last minute fans’ who just got to know about BB and YG. I dont post all the time. Only when i see its fit to do so. Again, each post has its own reason. So does mine. My signature post for this Fansite would definitely be ” No Genre Just Music”. So i’ll be making sure of myself to post more of that in the future.
And yes i agree that Vicky’s very meticulous in her work. Seeing the impossible things only a professional can detect. Thats Vicky and we are proud to have her on board. And when comes to spazzing, you can always count on her. She’s a storyteller. For a kid to have that kind of imagination and to be eloquent in everything she writes, i am impressed.
Melly, she’s a great BOSS to work with and she’s been doing quite well with the VIPTranslator along with Jess and others.
— we do have a staff page where we have a lil bit on each staffer, as well as contact info. that resolves many of your redundant “opinions.”
i’ll try to revamp our bbchat & come up w/ other gimicks to introduce our staff.
as for now, i like the idea of a 3-MAN TEAM (as momo puts it)
the 3-MAN TEAM consists of momo, vicky, & myself. i’ll give you a brief description of the team.
MOMO is our int’l correspondent. gave her that nickname & she’s used it since. she’s from malaysia & currently working. momo handles a lot of the news updates, as well as regular doses of yg artists. she used to be a gd follower, but is currently creeping over to TEAM YB’s tent.
VICKY is responsible for bringing out the kid/fangirl in you & providing you w/ the videos & pix, as well as the colorful spazz that compares to no other. she’s from florida & still in high school. don’t get her confused with me. she’s mrs. lee.
as for me, i’m MELLY. i’m mrs. kwon jiyong lol. i am responsible for the management of this site & handle all technicalities that encompasses our growing empire. i do my best to answer the questions you have, & utilize all my contacts to stay on top of the game. i’m from california & i go to ucla. so yea, i’m in college & i’m working my butt off balancing the school act w/ trying to get sleep, stay fit, & run this fansite. your welcome.
many express concerns about the organization/layout of our site. i’ll explain to you why we have things the way they are now.
the dark layout:
-if you are not familiar with wordpress, then you really have no idea about what you’re asking. wordpress is a free blog, which leaves a very limited amount of choices when it comes to layouts & themes. if you want to change any aspect to a theme, you must pay for subscription. otherwise, you choose a new theme.
– i chose to keep this dark layout because we get to have variety in our banners. i think this is wat makes our layout refreshing. dark is always better than light backgrounds. changing the layout would mean all our previous posts would be altered b/c every layout has different settings.
– a lot of you talk about the “clutterness” & lack of organization of our sidebar…
– if you want to search for previous posts, you can find the archives/categories section & even SEARCH to SEARCH for past articles. that’s kinda common sense, don’t you think? so i really don’t get what ppl were complaining about when they “can’t find previous posts.” it’s the simplest thing in the world. keep in mind we have almost 3,000 posts since our existence.
– the projects are organized very cleverly with an accompanying thumbnail so you know what the project pertains to. you can’t ask for a better system that also makes our “site” colorful because we have set the settings to show 20 posts per page. that’s 20 LONG posts, which stretches our site lengthwise. so the long sidebar makes sense b/c it follows the site lengthwise.
– & whoever suggests that we make posts similarly to that of LJ sites. well – LJ is NOT ORGANIZED WHATSOEVER. making a single post for one thing does not shout ORGANIZED to me. as an admin that ticks me off. we had this problem a while back of making too many posts in ONE DAY. that backs up on important info to previous pages which is TOTALLY UNNECESSARY. so if you are one of these people, you should revert to using LJ instead of visiting our site. thanks.
the merchandise section on the sidebar has been updated. i decided to link you directly to the listings. this is as accurate as it gets, otherwise take it up w/ the merchandise sites themselves, & not us.
we are not a forum where you can ask other people to buy things for you, but from time to time there will be sellers who ask me to make a post to help them sell their merchandise. otherwise, you can check out our FAQ PAGE for more info on merch.
A Big Thank You to everyone who have been such great readers and your support meant a lot to us. At least we know that we did something right to make you stay with us till now. Much appreciated.
Twitter me @ http://twitter.com/momo_lovesiwon
—- thanks for taking your time to read this. that means you actually care. i know i can sound mean sometimes, but you should consider things from my perspective. like i said earlier, we do this because we enjoy it. don’t give us reason to NOT enjoy it anymore. that would just leave me w/ so much more time to do other things. i believe in this site & what we do. i hope to continue to make this the “best site out there” & hopefully more of you will keep making this your “home page.” i’m honestly not a mean person once you get to know me. you know that thru my TWITTER. i’m real nice 🙂 but if you happen to get ahold of me, it’s not that i’m ignoring you, i’m just real busy. thanks again.